12.Bxb5+ Kd8 13.O-O exf3 14.Rxf3 Rb8 15.Be2 Bxf3 16.Bxf3 Qxd4+ 17.Kh1
Bxg3 18.hxg3 Rb6 19.d3 Ne3 20.Bxe3 Qxe3 21.Bg4 h5 22.Bh3 g5 23.Nd2 g4 24.Nc4 Qxg3 25.Nxb6 gxh3 26.Qf3 hxg2+ 27.Qxg2 Qxg2+
28.Kxg2 cxb6 29.Rf1 Ke7 30.Re1+ Kd6 31.Rf1 Rc8 32.Rxf7 Rc7 33.Rf2 Ke5 34.a4 Kd4 35.a5 Kxd3 36.Rf3+ Kc2 37.b4 b5 38.a6 Rc4
39.Rf7 Rxb4 40.Rb7 Rg4+ 41.Kf3 b4 42.Rxa7 b3 0-1
Here is what Hans Berliner has to say about this game in The System, p.61:
"When I played 10...e4! in the original game of this variation in Estrin-Berliner, 5th World Correspondence
Ch 1965-8, I judged the possibilities very good for Black. Detailed analysis of the plethora of variations revealed that Black
was indeed never worse than even (1). [The full analysis of this variation can be found in the author's From The Deathbed
of 4.Ng5 in the Two Knight's Defence] Thus, Black has full compensation for his material inferiority due to White's lack of
development and his less secure king position."
I came across the following recent game which was posted on the
Estrin-Berliner game page at chessgames.com:
White: R.Seldon
Black: C.Bean
e-mail correspondence game
(commentary as posted on chessgames forum)
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 Nd4 6.c3 b5 7.Bf1
Nxd5 8.Ne4 Qh4!? 9.Nd3 Bg4 10.f3 e4 11.cxd4 Bd6 12.Qe2!?(Walter Muir`s move introduced in 1997) Be6! 13.fxe4 Nb4 14.Na3 0-0-0
15.e5 Qxd4! 16.exd6 Bg4 17.d7+ Qxd7 18.Qe3 Rhe8 19.Ne4 Qd5 20.d3 f5 21.h3 fxe4 22.d4! [JLJ 22.Kf2 exd3 23.Qxa7 d2 24.Bxd2
Qxd2+ 25.Kg1 Bf3 26.Nxb5 Bb7 27.Qc5 might be the last chance to hold for a draw] Nd3+ 23.Kd2 c5!! 24.hxg4 cxd4 25.Qg3
e3+ 26.Kxd3 [JLJ 26.Kc2 might hold out a little longer] e2 27.Bf4 Re3+ 28.Kd2 exf1N+ 29.Raxf1 Rxg3 30.Bxg3 Qxg2+ 31.Kc1 white
resigns 0-1
I was particularly interested in White's 12th move Qe2. A quick
search of the internet revealed no analysis of this line. Tim Harding's analysis of this game http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kibitz60.pdf mentions 12.Qe2 but points the readers to Berliner's analysis in
"The System" (actually, detailed analysis of 12.Qe2 can only be found in Berliner's "From the Deathbed of
4.Ng5 in the Two Knight's Defence").
Berliner's claim (mentioned above) is that Black has at least a
draw, and at best a strong attack, if white plays 12.Qe2.
So out of curiosity I decided to see if White could improve. It
looked like Black could get a good attack after 12.Qe2 Be6 13.fxe4 as in Seldon-Bean. Mr. Bean claims to have used Berliner's
book as a reference in the e-mail correspondence game cited.
First I looked at 12.Qe2 0-0 13.fxg4 Bxf3+ 14.Kd1 which appeared
to favor White.
Berliner has this to say about the line 12.Qe2 O-O 13.fxg4
Bxg3 14.Kd1 in "The System", p. 65:
"The most important point is that what appears to be an exchange of pieces
with 12...O-O (the g4-bishop for the g3-knight) is in fact the committing of suicide. All of Black's advantages disappear
for the sake of getting a king that is not really in danger into safety."
Berliner claims that best after 14.Kd1 is 14...Nf6 15.Nc3 "and
White wins comfortably" (From the Deathbed of 4.Ng5, p. 16).
Switching back to 12.Qe2 Be6 (likely Black's best move) 13.fxe4, it
seemed to me that White needed to get another piece into the game. I began looking at other white 13th moves.
Next I looked at 12.Qe2 Be6 13.Nc3 which generated a complicated
set of positions which looked like it might favor White.
I compiled a huge analysis of the 12.Qe2 Be6 13.Nc3 line which I
posted on the Estrin-Berliner game page at chessgames.com.
I then decided to wrap up my analysis by doing one final long look
at the position after 12.Qe2 Be6.
After 81 hours of analysis on 12.Qe2 Be6. (Early versions of Rybka
had a "feature" which displayed only a few moves into a long analysis run) 32-bit version of Rybka
(1.11): 13. Qf2 Nb4
(1.07): 13. Qxb5 Kf8
(1.06):
13. Nc3 exf3
(0.77): 13. fxe4 Nb4
(0.34): 13. f4 Nb4 14. Qxe4
(0.26): 13. Na3 Bxg3+
[March 25, 2013, Rybka4.1]
[+2.23] d=32 13...exf3 14.Bxb5 Kd8 15.gxf3 Rb8 16.Be2 Nb4 17.Na3 Bxg3 18.Qxg3 Qxd4 19.Qf2 Nd3 20.Bxd3 Qxd3 21.Qe3 Qf5 22.O–O Bd5 23.d3 Rb6 24.Qg5 Qxg5 25.Bxg5 Kd7 26.Be3 Rxb2 27.Nc4 Rb7 28.Rae1 Re8 (585:23:33) 551500578kN
Rybka2.3.2a (24-ply) after 13.Qf2
1. +- (1.66): 13...exf3 14.Bxb5+ Kf8 15.gxf3 Bxg3 16.Qxg3 Qxd4 17.Na3 h5 18.Qf2 Qf6 19.Rg1 a6 20.Bc4
2. +- (1.72): 13...Nb4 14.Bxb5+ c6 15.Nxe4 Qxf2+ 16.Kxf2 cxb5 17.Nxd6+ Kd7 18.Nxb5 Nc2 19.d5 Bf5 20.N1a3
3. +- (2.20): 13...a6 14.Nxe4 Qd8 15.Nbc3 Nb4 16.Nxd6+ Qxd6 17.d3 f5 18.a3 Nc6 19.Ne2 0-0 20.Bf4
This result caused me to focus on the 12.Qe2 Be6 13.Qf2 line.
Berliner does not address 12.Qe2 Be6 13.Qf2! in The System
or in From the Deathbed. In fact, it appeared that no one had published analysis of this line (A.J. Goldsby
has recently looked at this line -- see his web page http://www.geocities.com/lifemasteraj/est-ber1_sh.html).
On page 64 of "The System" Berliner looks at 12.Qe2 Be6 13.fxe4,
saying "other [13th] moves are of no help to white". p.26 of "From the Deathbed" looks at 12.Qe2 Be6 13.Qxe4 Bxg3+ 14.Kd1
0-0 but offers nothing else.
Analysis of the position after
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 b5 6.Bf1 Nd4 7.c3 Nxd5
8.Ne4 Qh4 9.Ng3 Bg4 10.f3 e4 11.cxd4 Bd6
After extensive investigation, it seems clear that 12.Qe2 Be6 13.Qf2 favors
White, and arguably gives white a winning position:
Black has 4 responses to 12.Qe2 Be6 13.Qf2:
note: [+1.89] d=24 13.Qf2 exf3 14.Bxb5+ Kd8 15.gxf3 Rb8 16.Be2 Nb4 17.Na3 Bxg3 18.Qxg3 Qxd4 19.Qf2 Nd3+ 20.Bxd3
Qxd3 21.Qe3 Qd6 22.Qxa7 Kc8 23.Qf2 Re8 24.Kd1 Bd5 25.Re1 Kb7 26.Rxe8 Rxe8 27.d3 Be6 28.Qd2 Rybka 4, 1 Oct 2010 JLJ
[+2.02] d=23 13.Qf2 exf3 14.Bxb5+ Kf8 15.gxf3 Bxg3 16.Qxg3 Qxd4 17.Nc3 Nb4 18.Kd1 c6 19.Be2 Bf5 20.Qg1 Bc2+
21.Ke1 Qd6 22.Qg3 Qf6 23.Kf2 Re8
Variation A 13...Nb4
Variation B 13...exf3
Variation C 13...Bxg3
Variation D 13...a6
Variation A: 13...Nb4
Rybka 4:
[+2.09] d=29 14...Kd8 15.gxf3 Rb8 16.Be2 Nb4 17.Na3 Bxg3 18.Qxg3 Qxd4 19.Qg1 Nd3 20.Bxd3 Qxd3 21.Qe3* Qd6
22.d4 Re8 23.Kf2 Bd5 24.Qd3 Rb4 25.h4 Re6 26.Nc2 Bc4 27.Qd2 Ra4 28.Ne3 Bb5 29.Qc2 Kc8 (296:32:41) 277637852kN
*Now +2.15/27 21...Qd6 22.Kf2
Rybka 3:
[+1.93] d=24 14...Kd8 15.gxf3 Rb8 16.Be2 Nb4 17.Na3 Bxg3 18.Qxg3 Qxd4 19.Qf2 Nd3 20.Bxd3 Qxd3 21.Qe3 Qd6
22.Qxa7 Kc8 23.Nc2 Re8 24.Ne3 Bh3 25.Qa4 Bd7 26.Qa3 Qg6 27.Kf2 Qf6 28.h4 (15:43.00) 8763270kN
[+2.24] d=24 14...Kf8 15.gxf3 Bxg3 16.Qxg3 Qxd4 17.Nc3 Nb4 18.Kd1 c6 19.Be2 Bf5 20.Qg1 Qe5 (27:04.09)
13348062kN
14...Kd8
(B1 14...Kf8 15.gxf3 (15.Qxf3 Rb8 16.Be2 Re8 17.Kd1 Bxg3 18.Qxg3 Qxd4
19.Qd3 Qxd3 20.Bxd3 Bg4+ 21.Kc2 Nb4+ 22.Kc3 Nxd3 23.Kxd3 h5 24.Na3 Rh6 25.Kc3 Re2 26.d3 Rc6+ 27.Nc4 Rxg2 28.Be3 a6 2.40/20)
15...Nb4 (15...Bxg3 16.Qxg3 Qxd4 17.Na3 h5 18.Qf2 Qe5+ 19.Kd1) 16.Na3 Bxg3
17.Qxg3 Qxd4 18.Qf2 Qe5+ 19.Qe3 Qd6 20.Kd1 a6 21.Bc4 Re8 22.Re1 Bd7 23.Qf2 Rxe1+ 24.Kxe1 g6 25.d4 Kg7 26.Qh4 Re8+ 27.Kf2 h5
28.Bd2 Bf5 2.79/18;
B2 14...c6 15.Bxc6 Kf8 16.Ne2! (amazing) fxg2 17.Rg1 Qxf2 18.Kxf2 Rc8
19.Bb7 or Bxd5 2.29/19
B3 14...Bd7 15.Bxd7 Kxd7 16.O-O or Qxf3)
15.gxf3 Rb8
16.Be2 Nb4
17.Na3 Bxg3
18.Qxg3 Qxd4
19.Qg1 Nd3+
20.Bxd3 Qxd3
21.Qe3 Bf5 (+2.17/29 Rybka4 21...Qd6 22.Kf2 Re8 23.d4)
22.Qxd3+
Bxd3 (evaluation is now +1.97/31)
23.b3 (Rybka 2.3.2 likes 23.Kf2 Re8 24.Re1 Rxe1 25.Kxe1 +- and now if 25...g5
26.Kf2 Kd7 27.Ke3 or 27.Nb1 or 27.b3)
23...Re8+
24.Kd1 Be2+
25.Kc2 Bxf3
26.Rf1 Bh5
27.Rf2
Bg6+
28.d3 Kc8
29.Bf4 f6
30.Nc4 Rb5 and white stands better
Variation C: 13...Bxg3
(24-ply)Rybka2.3.2a
(2.20): 13...a6 14.Nxe4 Qd8 15.Nbc3 Nb4 16.Nxd6+ Qxd6 17.d3 f5 18.a3
Nc6 19.Ne2 0-0 20.Bf4
Did Berliner know about 12.Qe2 Be6 13.Qf2?
I e-mailed Hans Berliner about this move, and here is his response
(!!):
John,
Well; that is an interesting move and may very well be best.
My trouble is that I am 77 yrs old and not the analyst I used to be.
I have spent a couple of hours on this and my
current take is that 13.- Nb4; 14. Na3,e:f3; 15. g:f3,O-O-O is best.
Now we have one of those typical situations in
which black is a piece down but White's position is not too enviable. Based on my theories, I would have to vote for
black to at least draw, but it would be more comforting to have a more detailed analysis.
That is the best I can do
at this time.
Hans B.
I have the highest respect for Hans, his achievements and his abilities - as we all should. Hans
has taken the time to respond to the e-mail of an amateur, which he did not have to do. Hans has defended his position in
the past (such as Walter Muir's suggested 12.Qe2) and has taken pride in his analysis.
Berliner published analysis of 12.Qe2 Be6 13.fxe4 Nb4 14.Na3
0-0-0 15.Qf2 in "From the Deathbed" (it was his main line to the fxe4 variation) so he must have considered playing it earlier.
He also suggested in Timman-Arikok, 1988, the improvement 12.Qe2 0-0 13.fxg4 Nb4 *14.Qf2*.
Conclusion
Evidence is presented that supports the claim that 12.Qe2 Be6 13.Qf2!
refutes the Berliner variation of the Two Knight's Defense. The evidence presented is not overwhelming - what do you think?
Note - thanks to A.J. Goldsby for his encouragement in early postings
of this analysis on chessgames.com.
Addendum - an analysis of the position after 12.Qe2 Be6 using
Rybka 2.1, (set to ultra slow and extremely optimistic and set to show the top 3 moves) results in the following:
+1.20/25 13.Qf2 Nb4 14.Bxb5+ c6 15.Nxe4 Qxf2+ 16.Kxf2 cxb5 17.Nxd6+
Kd7 18.Nxb5 Nc2 19.d5 Bf5
+0.90/25 13.Qxb5+ (chessgames member "monad" has looked at this
line and shown that Black can cause white a number of problems)
+0.87/24 13.Nc3 (I have posted some analysis of this line on chessgames.com
but think that it has been superceded by 13.Qf2)
Analysis of 12.Qe2 Be6 13.Qf2: After 142 hours (screenshot
available to prove this)
1.25/28 13...Nb4 14.Bxb5+ c6 15.Nxe4 Qxf2 16.Kxf2 cxb5 17.Nxd6+
Kd7 18.Nxb5 Nc2 19.d5 Bf5 20.N1a3
1.25/28 13...exf3 14.Bxb5+ Kd8 15.gxf3 Rb8 16.Be2 Nb4 17.Na3 Bxg3
18.Qxg3 Qxd4 19.Qg5+ Kc8 20.Qe3
1.73/28 13...Bxg3 14.Bxb5+ c6 15.Bxc6+ Ke7 16.Qxg3 Qxg3+ 17.hxg3
Rac8 18.fxe4 Nb4 19.Na3 Rxc6 20.d5
Here is analysis of the 12.Qe2 O-O line:
12. Qe2 O-O
13. fxg4 Bxg3+
14. Kd1
and now the top 9 possibilities:
A 14... Nf6
15. Nc3 (15.
Kc2 Nxg4 16. Nc3 f5 17. Qxb5 +1.36/21) (15. g5 Ng4 16. Kc2 b4 17. a3 +1.20/21)
15... Rfe8 (15... Nxg4 16. Kc2 (16. Nxe4 Rae8 (16... Nf2+ 17. Nxf2
Bxf2 18. Qf3 Rab8 19. d5 Bc5 20. Bd3 g6 21. Kc2 a6 22. g4 Bd4 +2.07/19) 17. Kc2 Nxh2 18. d3 h6 19. Qd1 f5 20. Nxg3 Qxg3
21. Bd2 Qd6 22. Rc1 Nxf1 +1.32/20) 16... c6 (16... f5 17. Qxb5 Rab8 18. Qd5+ Kh8 19. b3 Rbd8 20. Qa5 Nf2 21. hxg3 Qxh1 22.
Ba3 Rf7 +1.96/21) 17. a4 f5 18. axb5 cxb5 19. Nxb5 Qh6 20. Ra3 Nf2 21. Rxg3 Nxh1 22. Rh3 Qf4 +1.93/20)
16. Kc2 (16. g5 Ng4 (16... Nh5 17. Qxb5 Bxh2 18. Ne2 Rab8 19. Qd7
Ng3 20. Nxg3 Qxg3 21. Bc4 Rf8 22. Qh3 Qxh3 +2.64/23) 17. Kc2 Rad8
18. Nxe4 Nf2 19. hxg3 Qxh1 20. Nxf2 Rxe2 21. Nxh1 Re1 22. Bxb5 Rxh1
+2.61/25)
16... b4 (16... c6 17. d3) (16... Nxg4 17. Nxe4 +1.45/21)
17. g5 +1.44/21
B 14... b4 15. d3 (15. a3 b3 16. g5 c6 17. Nc3 +0.91/22) 15... Nf6
16. dxe4 Nxg4 17. Kc2 +1.64/20
C 14... Rae8 15. Nc3 (15. Qxb5 Nf6 16. Kc2 Nxg4 17. b3 +1.52/20)
15... c6 (15... Nf6 16. g5 Ng4 17. Kc2 +1.77/21) (15... Nxc3+ 16.
dxc3 b4 17. Qe3 +2.08/21) 16. Nxd5 cxd5 17. Qxb5 +1.75/24
D 14... Rfe8 15. Nc3 (15. Qxb5 c6 16. Qxc6 Nf6 17. Bc4 +1.41/22)
15... c6 16. Nxd5 cxd5 17. Qxb5 +1.64/23
E 14... a6 15. Nc3 (15. a4 b4 16. d3 Nf6 17. dxe4 +1.47/20) 15...
Nf6 16. Nxe4 Rae8 17. Nxf6+ +1.94/24
F 14... Rad8 15. Nc3 (15. Qxb5 Bf2 16. Nc3 Qxg4+ 17. Qe2 +1.31/23)
15... Rfe8 16. Qxb5 Nf6 17. Kc2 +1.64/21
G 14... Rab8 15. Nc3 (15. d3 Nf6 16. Nc3 exd3 17. Qxd3 +1.61/21)
15... Nf6 16. Nxe4 Rfe8 17. d3 +1.95/23
H 14... Kh8 15. Nc3 (15. Qxb5 Nf6 16. Nc3 Nxg4 17. Nxe4 +1.65/21)
15... Nf6 16. Nxe4 Rae8 17. d3 +2.03/23
I 14... c6 15. Nc3 (15. d3 exd3 16. Qf3 Bf2 17. Nc3 +1.26/22) 15...
Bf2 16. g3 Bxg3 17. Bg2 +1.41/20
July 26, 2007 Rybka2.3.1 analysis: after 14.Kd1:
(29-ply)
1. +- (1.55): 14...Rfe8 15.Nc3 c6 16.a4 b4 17.Nxe4
2. +- (1.55): 14...c6 15.Nc3 Rfe8 16.a4 b4 17.Nxe4 f5 18.Qf3 fxe4 19.Qxg3
3. +- (1.73): 14...Rae8 15.Nc3 c6 16.Nxd5 cxd5 17.Qxb5 Bf2 18.Be2
4. +- (1.87): 14...Nf6 15.g5 Ng4 16.Kc2 b4 17.a3 Nf2 18.hxg3 Qxg3 19.axb4
5. +- (1.93): 14...Rad8 15.Nc3 Rfe8 16.Qxb5 Nf6 17.Kc2 Nxg4
6. +- (1.97): 14...b4 15.d3 Nf6 16.dxe4 Nxg4 17.Kc2 Nxh2 18.Nd2 Rad8 19.Qd3 c5 20.d5 Rfe8 21.Kb1
7. +- (2.16): 14...Bf2 15.g3 Qf6 16.Qxe4 c6 17.Bd3 g6 18.Nc3 Nb4 19.Ne2 Rad8 20.Qf4 Bxd4 21.Qxf6
8. +- (2.18): 14...h6 15.Nc3 c6 16.a4 b4 17.Nxe4 Rae8 18.d3 Bc7 19.h3 Bb6 20.Qf2 Qd8 21.Bd2